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    I took my 5-string on a recent business trip in case I might find a session or at least so I'd have something to do in the hotel. That's when I realized that my 4-string practice mute wouldn't really do the job (I can kinda-sorta fit it on the bridge).

    Has anybody seen such a thing as a 5-string practice mute?

    I know that's asking a lot considering there's not even many 5-string tail-pieces exist...
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      CommentAuthorTartini
    • CommentTimeAug 2nd 2008 edited
     
    Greetings in Christ,

    Your question is great,as I have been looking for one myself, with no luck,I'm afraid. If the 4 string mute is working to satisfaction, you may also try the old method of using a clothspin. The wooden spring type is preferable, but the antique 2 prong, with some modifications to the spacings between the prongs, could work as well. I glue a small strip of leather on the inside parts of the wood to protect the bridge and it enhances the tonal dampening. This, in addition to your practice mute, which I am assuming is of heavy metal, will further mute and muffle the sound. If you are a good woodworker,you could fashion one yourself prefferably out of ebony or some other hard wood. As for 5 string tailpieces, a web search should be alble to direct you to some makers who produce such things. I hope I was of some help, because I know that not everyone, especially in hotel rooms, enjoy the sound of a violinist practicing at 2 AM....as for 5 string tailpieces I located a variety of them on E-Bay (that certain aution site) where their are several stores that carry parts for 5 strings. Their prices are very reasonable and I have foung many useful things their. Here is a link that that you can copy and paste it in your address bar and it will take you directly to the listings....

    http://search.stores.ebay.com/The-Fiddle-Shop_5-string-violin-tailpiece_W0QQfciZQ2d1QQfclZ4QQfsnZTheQ20FiddleQ20ShopQQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQsaselZ28663636QQsofpZ0

    God Bless You,
    Jerald Franklin Archer (Tartini)
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    Hi Jerald,

    Thanks for the pointer on the tail pieces -- that's a good find.

    I do have some skill with woodworking and even metal-working (from working in a machine shop ages ago), but the issue is mostly time and access to a milling machine.

    You brought up some good ideas though, and it makes me think there's probably something already out there that can be adapted with less cost/effort than hogging a mute out of a big chunk of brass. Damping the sound from a bridge is not exactly rocket science.

    I'll be thinking about this next time I go through a hardware store, and will report back if anything works particularly well.

    Or maybe some entrepreneur can get in on the ground floor of the 5-string mute wave and make a fortune ;^)

    Best regards,

    Rich
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    you can simple use two of those little, black, round Tourte mutes, know which ones?
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    In reply to the question of a practice mute for a 5-string, Tartini wrote:
    "I know that not everyone, especially in hotel rooms, enjoy the sound of
    a violinist practicing at 2 AM".

    The WiplstiX is good for that, though it entails going back to only four
    strings. Its neck might be too narrow to work as a conversion to a
    5-string, unless we could get Bill Whipple to build a few with the neck
    cut wider.

    I tried a violin Tourte (two hole) and a viola Tourte (one hole) but
    they had little effect on the Carruth 5-string, perhaps a slight change
    in timbre. Then tried a firm-rubber Ultra practice mute from the viola,
    which neither fit particularly well nor had satisfactory effect when
    pushed over either end of the bridge. Next step will be home-made, based
    on recent inspiration.

    While photographing instruments from the estate of a local
    viola-da-gamba player (R.I.P. Bonnie) there were a number of curiosities
    by her late husband who also played, collected and modified early
    instruments -- 5, 6, 7 and 9-string instruments, one with 12 sympathetic
    strings running beneath the fingerboard, etc. One gamba, a 6-string, had
    a partially finished but functional practice mute -- a thick piece of
    walnut, sculpted to fit between the strings, pencil lines where CW was
    planning to refine the shape. Intriguing, but in the press of time neglected
    to photograph it while in hand.

    How uniform are string spacings at the bridge? Would it even be possible
    to produce a line of practice mutes that would fit the majority of
    5-string violins/violas out there?

    I'll check the shelves for a piece of heavy wood, and looks like with
    backsaw, fretsaw and some knife work it should be possible to make up
    something of like kind, and then see how it functions. A luthier, of
    course, would have wood, tools, and better yet, woodworking skills to do
    it quicker and better. Who will get to it first?
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    You could get an Ultra standard mute, and cut two slots on the end two legs, then it will fit over the 5 strings easily.

    Jim
    • CommentAuthordud15
    • CommentTimeSep 9th 2008
     
    OK you all have inspired me and I do have access to a milling machine. I took a piece of brass about 1.437in. wide.625in. high and .250in.thick, milled a .070in. slot for the bridge and three .250in. slots about .400in. deep for string clearance. After some sanding, filing, and smoothing of corners I now have a beautiful brass 5-string violin mute that literally kills the sound. My Dudley is a banjo killer but this mute reduces it to a whisper, which is a good thing since I usually practice late at night when others are sleeping...it helps me unwind.